Hi Amanda,
What version of EndNote are you running? I tried this same thing with
EndNote and didn't have any problems...it created the file, with the
appropriate line, and just left out the label if there was none in the
EndNote record. But I'm running EndNote X1, with fairly recent updates
to my export filters and things. It would be helpful for those of us
who support Citeline to know which versions of EndNote are uncooperative.
Also, a suggestion you might try instead of entering labels for each of
your 400 references would be to get any updated output styles. These
are all available on the EndNote site at
http://www.endnote.com/support/ensupport.asp, and a quick glance tells
me that the most recent BibTeX output style was uploaded in April 2008.
There's also a link on that page that's just for working with EndNote
and BibTeX (the one for "BibTeX Conversion Tools"), so you might want to
have a look at that, too.
Hope that helps!
Mat Willmott
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> Amanda Graham wrote:
>
>> Hello, again, Stefano,
>>
>
> Hi Amanda,
>
>
>> It turns out that my problem was a fairly simple one. I didn't supply a
>> "label" for any of my EndNote entries. Once I went in to edit the EN
>> BibTeX filter, it was clear. Without the label field populated, a series
>> of linked output fields are ignored by the parser/filter, resulting in a
>> BibTeX file that is missing the type and the author fields. Once I went
>> in and added some text to the EndNote label field, the output was
>> properly generated and the Exhibit was created!
>>
>> I may not be the only person using EndNote that didn't use the label
>> field; others may find my experience instructive. Thanks for the
>> assistance.
>>
>
> I've added this entry to our FAQ at
>
> http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Citeline_FAQ
>
> since it's a wiki, feel free to correct it, improve on it or add more
> information to it (or any other info you might find by using the tool).
>
>
>> And, again, thanks for the excellent tool!
>>
>> I'm now adding labels to my 400-odd references and should have the whole
>> thing up and running soon.
>>
>
> Very cool!
>
>
>> Amanda
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi <stefanom_at_mit.edu
>> <mailto:stefanom_at_mit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Amanda Graham wrote:
>> > Thanks for the suggestions.
>> >
>> > I am surprised the output doesn't include a type, since that is the
>> > first choice one makes about a new reference and it's established
>> before
>> > one puts in any information.
>>
>> Yeah, it's weird.
>>
>> > I'll see what I can do; Is there a source you'd recommend for BibTeX
>> > standards?
>>
>> http://www.bibtex.org/
>>
>> > It should be possible to make a new export filter for EndNote
>> > that does it properly.
>>
>> Yeah. Let me know if you figure out how.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> >
>> > Amanda Graham
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefanom_at_MIT.EDU
>> <mailto:stefanom_at_MIT.EDU>]
>> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:02 PM
>> > To: Amanda Graham
>> > Cc: citeline-lib_at_mit.edu <mailto:citeline-lib_at_mit.edu>
>> > Subject: Re: Assistance with Citeline
>> >
>> > Amanda Graham wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello, Stefano,
>> >>
>> >> I've attached the file as you requested. I should have thought of
>> >> doing that at first. I also didn't tell you--as I probably
>> >> should--that I used EndNote X2, the most recent version, to make the
>> >> file. Perhaps it makes a different flavour of BiBTeXT?
>> >
>> > The file you sent me is not properly formatted BibTeX.
>> >
>> > A good BibTeX entry looks like this
>> >
>> > _at_article{cilibrasi_clustering_2005,
>> > title = {Clustering by Compression},
>> > volume = {51},
>> > journal = {Information Theory, IEEE Transactions on},
>> > author = {R. Cilibrasi and P. M. B. Vitani},
>> > year = {2005},
>> > pages = {1523-1545}
>> > },
>> >
>> > while all the items in your BibTeX file look like this:
>> >
>> > title = {The Arctic Expedition of the Diana},
>> > volume = {8868},
>> > number = {5},
>> > pages = {5},
>> > month = {September 26},
>> > abstract = {...},
>> > keywords = {Arctic exploration},
>> > year = {|1874|}
>> > }
>> >
>> > note how your entries seem to be missing the first line which
>> basically
>> > is
>> >
>> > _at_<type>{<reference_ID>
>> >
>> > we were aware of the fact that sometimes EndNote might generate the
>> > entry without a reference_ID (and we can cope with that issue), but
>> > without a type and starting point, there is little we can do to parse
>> > this file.
>> >
>> > My suggestion would be to try to add the "type" of reference to your
>> > EndNote bibliography (for example, article, book, conference
>> > proceedings, etc..), export that and see if Citeline responds better
>> > (and do look at the BibTeX file for those lines that start with a "_at_"
>> > character).
>> >
>> > Sorry about all this: BibTeX is supported by most citation management
>> > tools (at least on paper) but their real-life interoperability is far
>> > from being painless.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> >> Amanda Graham
>> >> Yukon College
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefanom_at_MIT.EDU
>> <mailto:stefanom_at_MIT.EDU>]
>> >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:46 AM
>> >> To: Amanda Graham
>> >> Cc: citeline-lib_at_mit.edu <mailto:citeline-lib_at_mit.edu>
>> >> Subject: Re: Assistance with Citeline
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Amanda,
>> >>
>> >> can you place your small bibtex file on the web and send us the URL?
>> >> that would be very helpful for us to understand where the problem
>> >> might be.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much.
>> >>
>> >> Amanda Graham wrote:
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> I just discovered your fabulous tool/service and I tried it out. I
>> >>> followed the instructions for making a bibtext file from references
>> >>> in
>> >>> EndNote and got that. I told Citeline that was the file I wanted to
>> >>> use and it made me a page with no references in it. I thought maybe
>> >>> there were too many, so I made a second file with only a few
>> >>> references. That didn't work either. I have an Exhibit without
>> items.
>> >>> Is it me? I checked the help but I didn't find anything about my
>> >> specific problem.
>> >>> This is a very cool tool and one I'd like to use to make an online
>> >>> bibliography. Help!
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>>
>> >>> Amanda Graham
>> >>> Yukon College
>> >> --
>> >> Stefano Mazzocchi
>> >> Digital Libraries Research Group Research Scientist
>> >> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> >> E25-131, 77 Massachusetts Ave skype: stefanomazzocchi
>> >> Cambridge, MA 02139-4307, USA email: stefanom at mit . edu
>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Stefano Mazzocchi
>> > Digital Libraries Research Group Research Scientist
>> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> > E25-131, 77 Massachusetts Ave skype: stefanomazzocchi
>> > Cambridge, MA 02139-4307, USA email: stefanom at mit . edu
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stefano Mazzocchi
>> Digital Libraries Research Group Research Scientist
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> E25-131, 77 Massachusetts Ave skype: stefanomazzocchi
>> Cambridge, MA 02139-4307, USA email: stefanom at mit . edu
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Received on Tue Aug 26 2008 - 09:59:30 EDT