On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:30 AM, David R. Karger wrote:
> please be more precise about in-your-face urls?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/ is an in-your-face url.
> i am sure fresnel shows rdfs:label if it exists; question is what
> to do if there is none.
Exactly.
Implementing variants of this problem in the past (and generalizing
from various other implementations), the general approach seems to be
hard-wired in code to look for (rdf:value, rdfs:label, dc:title) and
then punt to an in-your-face url of the 'thing'. I'm hoping we can do
better than that. :)
Haystack seems to have gotten this pretty close. How is this being done?
As Emmanuel mentioned -
"... fresnel:label (or at least there is label in it, Chris or Ryan
will know better) and takes a URI reference (indicating a property) as
the property value to be considered as the label."
seems to be a start towards this.
There are various issues to watch out for with objects that are
multiple types (which in turn might have multiple fresnel:label (s) but
thats a different thread.
I just wanted to make sure this feature was in there somewhere. :)
> Perhaps rather then showing url, fresnel
> should print "unnamed <rdfs:Class of resource>"
Yes. In the case of not knowing the 'label', applications should
defaulting to some sort of additional helpful display. While this
default will be application specific in the case of Longwell /
PiggyBank / SemBank a linked version of the above is preferable to
'anonymous'.
--
eric miller http://www.w3.org/people/em/
semantic web activity lead http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/
w3c world wide web consortium http://www.w3.org/
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> In your face URLs are a "bad thing".
>
> One of the uses I see of fresnel is being able to declaratively
> indicate human readable "default" labels for arbitrary resources. I
> suspect this is part of fresnel but I haven't seen this discussed yet.
> Can one of the fresnel folk confirm how this is currently handled?
>
> I just want to make sure we don't miss the simple use cases while
> dealing with the harder ones.
>
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