Re: A bit of bomb throwing....

From: Zack Rosen <>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:33:16 -0800

>> Engaged hobbyists and industry people are for the most part sitting
>> out the semantic web. You need a new plan.
> I think this is rather prematurely pessimistic.
> For a start, lots of technologies have a latent period - look at
> client side javascript - it spent about 8 years not being used in
> any really significant way before recently exploding. Semantic web
> technologies show a lot of signs of being woken from their slumber.

AJAX took off so quickly because it showed demonstrable new real-
world functionality and could be implemented in a fairly
straightforward manner within the current platform technologies.
Semantic Web technology is having a much harder time because the real-
world benefits are not as easily demonstrable and implementing the
concepts require new platform technologies to be created, adopted,
and proven.

> Also, I know for a fact that plenty of hobbyists (e.g. those
> involved in for one thing) and industry people
> (commercial publishers like BioMed Central and Elsevier, technology
> providers like IBM and Oracle) are now focusing on semantic web
> stuff in a way that they weren't a few years ago.

I'd love to hear more about these efforts? Can you point me towards
'real-world' open-source implementations of semantic web technology?

> I couldn't agree more that the semantic web is still looking for
> its gmail/google maps moment. It hasn't happened yet - but I think
> it will. Whether it will come from academia, indsutry or hobbyists
> remains to be seen - all 3 are possible and have happened in the
> past. I don't thing there's a single model.
> It can go:academia proves this concept, industry commercializes it,
> hobbyists extend it to sectors that appeared to lack commercial
> interest
> But it can also go: hobbyists invent something, industry grabs it,
> academics refine it.

Sure, but as I've said before the hobbyists and industries are having
a very hard time incorporating the concepts being flushed out in
academia. The costs to implementation are simply too high and the
benefits remain too unclear.

Received on Wed Jan 18 2006 - 04:32:54 EST

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