Re: infoURI standard officially blessed

From: Seth Johnson <seth.johnson_at_RealMeasures.dyndns.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:34:41 -0800

I have to disagree with this, unless I'm very dense (likely,
given that I am just for the first time popping up and saying
anything here).

It doesn't matter how Alice's info is used by anybody else; it's
only that that's the original identity of the info.

This actually sounds a lot like one of the issues in copyright --
a lot of people want there to be a sort of "moral right" to
control how a work is used. In fact, in France they have that
sort of thing. But in the US, our entire tradition is against
that -- it's that published information is freely usable; you
just don't copy the original expression.

But I'm probably really, really misunderstanding the point of
this . . .


Seth Johnson


David Karger wrote:
>
> Matthew Cockerill wrote:
>
> > "Sure it's useful as identification but completely useless for
> > discovery as I wouldn't know how to ask for more info about that URI."
> >
> > Yep - it's a floor polish, but most definitely is not a dessert topping.
> > From the Info URI FAQ:
> > http://info-uri.info/registry/docs/misc/faq.html#value
> >
> > "
> > Q. Why are info URIs non-dereferenceable?
> > A. info is focused exclusively on supporting identity [...]
> > "
>
> This above Q&A suggests that the whole info uri concept may be self
> defeating, because identity isn't "supported"---it just is. Consider
> the following scenario. Alice registers the info:alice/* namespace and
> makes some URIs. Bob then makes statements about those uris that alice
> disagrees with. Even worse, Bob, without consulting alice, makes up an
> info:alice/bob uri to talk about himself, and starts making statements
> about it. How exactly has the "registration" of the info:alice
> namespace helped? It certainly doesn't prevent bob from using the uris
> in that namespace.
>
> I would like to raise the conjecture that namespace registration ONLY
> makes sense in situations where the names can be dereferenced, and in
> particular dereferenced under the control of the namespace owner. In
> such systems, the owner can effectively prevent bob from acting on the
> names. For example, the owner of a dns name can prevent anyone else
> from binding that name to a value. But absent dereference, the owner of
> the name has no control.
>
> With RDF, I think the traditional notion of deciding which _names_ to
> trust based on registrations will need to be replaced by decisions about
> which _statements_ to trust based on who is serving those statements.

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